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Post by g4hardcore on Oct 16, 2014 20:05:58 GMT
Huh, some interesting news on this. If you look at that link now, it seems that someone just bought a five-year lease on EF. We can't be sure what this means yet, though. True, we can't. I'm not going to let the fact that my heart just skipped a beat blind my reality. Who knows what the buyer intends to do with the domain, I can't imagine this person wanting to preserve what electricferret.com is, for some strange reason. Time will tell. If I could, I'd by the ferret myself!
Edit: I will add that I'm ecstatic that my reminiscing days aren't quite over!
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Post by Venom 2009 on Oct 17, 2014 22:23:11 GMT
Huh, some interesting news on this. If you look at that link now, it seems that someone just bought a five-year lease on EF. We can't be sure what this means yet, though.
I have some ideas of what maybe happing.
1. FoxFingers is planing to put the site back online. 2. FoxFingers has sold the site to a new owner that will put the site back online. 3. FoxFingers doesn’t want to see his old work gone, and pay to keep the site up for five years.
But these are just theories, so who knows what’s going on.
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Post by DamagingRob on Oct 17, 2014 22:45:34 GMT
Interesting revelation, this is, indeed.. But yeah, who knows what it means, exactly. Again, I didn't think Fox would let it go, since he made it sound like he would do his own thing, with the domain. I wouldn't get your hopes up, that it means EF may reopen.
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Post by g4hardcore on Oct 18, 2014 18:01:23 GMT
Anybody here in contact with Serge? If the problem with reopening the original electric ferret is purely financial, I'd be more than happy to do what I can to help mitigate such an issue. Though, if I remember correctly, the problem was multi faceted; it was hard work keeping up with the site on a technical level. Which is why I'd help with what I can.
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Post by DamagingRob on Oct 19, 2014 2:14:38 GMT
Pretty sure, that was taken care of. He had found a cheaper host, and was even giving prizes away, for writing tournaments, when I was last active. What it sounds like, is that he just didn't want to devote the time and effort to it, anymore. Skillz said the site was hacked, and it took him a whole day(s), to fix it. So, rather than take a chance on it happening, again, he just decided to shut things down.
Plus, with everything that went down, with the banning of Pseudonym(and various others; all were reinstated, after a short time), after his racist remark, I don't think he felt he could leave the site unsupervised, anymore. That may have played a role, in his decision, as well, if he thought he constantly had to be there.
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Post by DSkillz on Oct 19, 2014 6:48:57 GMT
IIRC, it took almost a week for Fox to get EF back online after that hacking, and he had to just about rebuild its server from scratch and install new security.
Rob is probably right on the money about EF's shutdown, though, along with another factor: as hard as serge worked on EF in its final years, his true actual interest in the site probably peaked back in the Back Issue days.
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Post by kainboa on Oct 19, 2014 13:22:49 GMT
Plus, with everything that went down, with the banning of Pseudonym(and various others; all were reinstated, after a short time), after his racist remark, I don't think he felt he could leave the site unsupervised, anymore. That may have played a role, in his decision, as well, if he thought he constantly had to be there. The so-called racist remark, wasn't actually racist, it was something along the lines of "between a black kid getting shot to death, and a white kid getting burned but survive. Being burned isn't all that bad" The fact that Serge blew up over it, his following temper tantrum where he banned several people merely for disagreeing with him, and his behavior afterwards in emails between him and myself, are some of the major reasons why even if he did re-open EF, I wouldn't be going back. I'm somewhat sad to see the community splinter, but considering that I have daily contact to the people I generally talked to on the forum anyways, I'm somewhat apathetic about it.
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Post by treacherous1 on Oct 19, 2014 19:35:39 GMT
I have contact with him, but even that contact has been out of contact.
I don't think it's ever coming back. It was something he did in his youth on a whim and I think he's outgrown it.
It's over.
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Post by DamagingRob on Oct 19, 2014 19:36:19 GMT
The so-called racist remark, wasn't actually racist, it was something along the lines of "between a black kid getting shot to death, and a white kid getting burned but survive. Being burned isn't all that bad" The fact that Serge blew up over it, his following temper tantrum where he banned several people merely for disagreeing with him, and his behavior afterwards in emails between him and myself, are some of the major reasons why even if he did re-open EF, I wouldn't be going back. I'm somewhat sad to see the community splinter, but considering that I have daily contact to the people I generally talked to on the forum anyways, I'm somewhat apathetic about it. I thought he said something like "burn whitey," but my memory isn't the greatest. I honestly didn't think it was worth flipping out over, either. But I still think after that, he may have felt like he had to be present 24/7, and couldn't leave it in the Mods/Admins hands.
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Post by treacherous1 on Oct 19, 2014 19:37:58 GMT
In the end, you guys are the last bastion of EF.
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Post by DamagingRob on Oct 19, 2014 19:49:49 GMT
as hard as serge worked on EF in its final years, his true actual interest in the site probably peaked back in the Back Issue days. It was something he did in his youth on a whim and I think he's outgrown it. ^And then there's that, too. He, basically, left it unattended for years, without making an appearance, after all. So, if he did feel like he couldn't leave it unattended, and wasn't interested in it, then that's probably what led to it's shutdown. And no offense, to the Mods/Admins, of the old EF, by the way. These are all just hypotheses, of why things ended up the way they did. I thought you guys ran the site just fine.
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Post by g4hardcore on Oct 19, 2014 20:11:47 GMT
EF may very well be on it's last leg, but there are plenty of other tables. I suppose what it really comes down to is how strong your preference is for individual faces. Fortunately, I watch enough Doctor Who to be alright with that. Plus, a lot of you guys are here, so it's not so bad. Well, maybe not a lot, and perhaps not as frequently as I'd prefer, but the presence remains.
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Post by Z451 on Oct 20, 2014 18:16:42 GMT
The so-called racist remark, wasn't actually racist, it was something along the lines of "between a black kid getting shot to death, and a white kid getting burned but survive. Being burned isn't all that bad" The fact that Serge blew up over it, his following temper tantrum where he banned several people merely for disagreeing with him, and his behavior afterwards in emails between him and myself, are some of the major reasons why even if he did re-open EF, I wouldn't be going back. I'm somewhat sad to see the community splinter, but considering that I have daily contact to the people I generally talked to on the forum anyways, I'm somewhat apathetic about it. I thought he said something like "burn whitey," but my memory isn't the greatest. I honestly didn't think it was worth flipping out over, either. But I still think after that, he may have felt like he had to be present 24/7, and couldn't leave it in the Mods/Admins hands. I find it unlikely that serge will reopen EF, about as much as I feel it unlikely that he will reopen any of the previous sites. My reasoning for that is twofold, 1) it would be unsuccessful anyway, as there might not be all that many means with which serge could even spread the news, in said circumstance, as many members seemed to have moved on, and to farther and farther away places, making them pretty difficult to contact, and 2) as others have said, he seems to have grown somewhat weary of both EF and the problems arising from it, hence even if situation 1 was possible, it would be unlikely that he would really last all that long in his efforts, if at all as a consequence of situation 2. "Whitey got set on fire. Big deal."< The quote, I found it in the Facebook group, under your post Rob, on March 29, 2012, I'm a history/Ils major so..., this shouldn't surprise anyone, about my specificity. Yeah it wasn't worth taking to the level serge did, as he took it out of context, that said this quote by Psuedo, had disastrous effects for the cohesion of the website. A short of "Shot heard around the world" scenario, or rather around the website if you will. Had it not went about that way, I don't know how much the events would have changed.
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Post by treacherous1 on Oct 20, 2014 18:30:39 GMT
He jumped on us for letting the FPL get "crazy". He didn't like a lot of things that went down. That's why he jumped back in with a bunch of laws and rules and well, bans... We see how that went. Anyway, it's over. I don't see a return unless one of you are a kick ass programmer?
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Post by kainboa on Oct 20, 2014 19:18:33 GMT
If anybody is interested in getting a bit more information about what was going on. I've created a new thread where I've posted the email conversation between Serge and myself, as well as the brief email conversation between Methos and Serge, which resulted in the unbanning of both of us. Linky
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