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May 5, 2015 19:46:11 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 19:46:11 GMT
A Hawkeye movie would indeed be a gamble. Making whole films based on relatively minor characters without superpowers has always lead to failures. Does anyone actually remember/care about the Elektra movie? Exactly my point. Ahem... Yeah, about the Marvel films, they could indeed make a film about any of their franchises and it would both be a smash-hit and be a good film. Well that was quick. But yeah, I think they could do it right now with their star power being what it is at the moment. I did say in that first post you half-quoted that Marvel hadn't failed us yet and that at least some people would go and see a Hawkeye film. At most, it would be a smash hit like all of the other Marvel movies. |
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May 7, 2015 1:04:17 GMT
Post by bigballerju on May 7, 2015 1:04:17 GMT
People will check out any superhero film by Marvel because they know they will get at least a fun and decent film. Marvel is huge in Hollywood right now and in the top 5 franchises that are hot right now. That's why any film by them will do good at the box office right now. Say what you want about Ironman 3. It grossed a billion dollars.
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May 7, 2015 7:07:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 7:07:55 GMT
We are living in a cinematic golden age. Just think about how many great films are coming out this year alone.
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May 7, 2015 14:11:52 GMT
Post by silversurfer092 on May 7, 2015 14:11:52 GMT
Cinematic golden age? I don't think a bunch of popcorn flicks based on concepts created 50 years ago counts as a golden age. Where are the classics? Where are the Godfathers, the original Star Wars, Gone With The Wind?
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May 7, 2015 14:31:16 GMT
Post by AvP on May 7, 2015 14:31:16 GMT
It's a prosperous time for movie moneymaking and superhero movies at least, but that goes without saying. As far as pop cultural milestones like those ones go, though, the kinds of masterpieces people look back on nearly fifty years later and see as iconic... yeah, not a lot really comes to mind.
This is really around the time some new, young genius of a director should be showing up, blowing everybody's mind and ushering in a new wave of classics, but it doesn't seem like it's happening. When we're all crotchety old men with walking sticks and bad posture what'll be considered the "Star Wars" of our generation, I wonder? I'd say the Lord of the Rings films, but those were over ten years ago and the Hobbit trilogy (which besides a few bits I found really, really bad) kind of sullies their legacy. Of the movies I've seen recently nothing really stands out in my mind as a "classic", per se, except maybe Snowpiercer. The themes and cinematography in the one was really, really good. Maybe not all time great good though.
I'd say with stuff like Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, Daredevil, Sherlock, True Detective, Supernatural (though that one's overstayed its welcome a bit) and co. this is more the golden age of TV. Clever, gripping shows like those are definitely gonna stand the test of time.
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May 7, 2015 14:49:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 14:49:57 GMT
Cinematic golden age? I don't think a bunch of popcorn flicks based on concepts created 50 years ago counts as a golden age. Where are the classics? Where are the Godfathers, the original Star Wars, Gone With The Wind? Let me rephrase it: This is a summer blockbuster golden age, more like. Considering the kinds of summer movies that were coming out in the late 90s/early 2000s, we should count ourselves lucky. The Nostalgia Critic made a whole video about this that really gives one some perspective on how cinema has changed. Cinema is rarely a medium that stands out as being particularly 'original', anyway. |
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May 7, 2015 19:49:19 GMT
Post by silversurfer092 on May 7, 2015 19:49:19 GMT
Yes, but summer blockbusters are much more shallow, money-grabbers. This is not to question whether or not the movies are made with love and the best intentions, but they just aren't artistic marvels. There are Boyhood, 12 Years A Slave, and a few others out there that might be revered as classics one day. Maybe Birdman.
AvP's post about TV is solid though. Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, and True Detective will be classics.
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May 7, 2015 21:06:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 21:06:48 GMT
Yes, but summer blockbusters are much more shallow, money-grabbers. This is not to question whether or not the movies are made with love and the best intentions, but they just aren't artistic marvels. There are Boyhood, 12 Years A Slave, and a few others out there that might be revered as classics one day. Maybe Birdman. AvP's post about TV is solid though. Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, and True Detective will be classics. Certainly not artistic marvels by any means, I agree. But while they may not be artistically innovative, they almost certainly will be remembered quite fondly in the future and are good fun to watch. Then we'll have a new generation of film makers who are blinded by nostalgia goggles and won't be able to let old franchises die! Rejoice! ... ... ... ... Sarcasm. |
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May 8, 2015 1:48:05 GMT
Post by bigballerju on May 8, 2015 1:48:05 GMT
Christopher Nolan is that director making films that blows people's minds. Sooner or later he is going to make a classic if he hasn't already with multiple number of Oscar worthy films. It's guaranteed. The same thing with Del Toro. We are living in a golden age for superhero films and there the hottest thing in Hollywood. If anyone doesn't realize it they need to go back to the 1990s where people were begging for all this shit and never thought any of it would happen. Pfft...As a comic fan I couldn't be happier.
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May 8, 2015 2:22:13 GMT
Post by Nova Prime X on May 8, 2015 2:22:13 GMT
Yeah, maybe not classic in the vein of those but still really like Neill Blomkamp's stuff, especially District 9. Visually and in terms of movie gross, no one's really touching Cameron. Haven't not enjoyed a Tarantino film yet but yeah...there's not really a single movie I'd say with 100% certainty was the current gen Star Wars
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May 8, 2015 2:58:37 GMT
Post by ND10 on May 8, 2015 2:58:37 GMT
If I may? I'd like to nominate the Clerks series of movies by Kevin Smith as being this generation's Star Wars, ignoring the fact that it only has two films in the series at the moment. I feel it's a great journey of everyman Dante who I feel everyone on this website knows someone like him or even IS like him. You could grow attached to him and see yourself in his shoes, just as you could with someone as optimistic as say Luke Skywalker(I use him because in all honesty no one here can ever hope to replicate Han Solo in personality. It just can't be done.)and just as Luke had to deal with the Galactic Empire looming over him and the rest of the Rebels, Dante had the enemy of a rather shitty life weighing down on him. Life in this sense is a metaphor for the Galactic Empire. Everything that can go wrong for Dante? It goes wrong. Everything that can go wrong for the Rebels? It goes wrong. Granted of course I don't think any accidental corpse boning or pickle-fuckery went on in Star Wars.Maybe in the Turkish version perhaps but I haven't watched that so consider it excluded it from present discussion. But here are where the similarities really match up. Dante is our hero just as Luke is our hero in Star Wars and he has a snarky side-kick in Randall Graves just as luke has one in Han Solo. Dante often has to help Randall out or try to be the voice of reason while Luke has to go and save Han like when Han got frozen in carbonite and was kidnapped by Boba Fett. So with this in mind, I stand by my opinion that Clerks is this generation's Star Wars. Oh and Lord of the Rings sucks because Randall said so. www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxAEo3CWeq8(Now before anyone decides to rip me a new rear-end, this is not at all serious. I myself have no real idea what movies would fit that classification and just saw an opportunity to talk about the Clerks movie and took it! I also don't think the Lord of the Rings movies suck. But that one game on the 360? Oh boy that thing sucks.  ) |
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May 8, 2015 4:25:30 GMT
Post by Ruinus on May 8, 2015 4:25:30 GMT
Clerks being anywhere near Star Wars is a comparison that is hard to swallow.
But I just saw the new Avengers movie, and I've recently seen Paul Blart 2. One of these movies is about the everyday man persevering against insurmountable odds, while the other is mindless adoration of the ubermensch and hoping they'll solve all our problems. I'll let you decide which is which.
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May 8, 2015 6:50:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 6:50:17 GMT
Clerks being anywhere near Star Wars is a comparison that is hard to swallow. But I just saw the new Avengers movie, and I've recently seen Paul Blart 2. One of these movies is about the everyday man persevering against insurmountable odds, while the other is mindless adoration of the ubermensch and hoping they'll solve all our problems. I'll let you decide which is which. Mall Cop 2 is just terrible. I went in thinking it would be laughably bad, but it wasn't. It was just bad. I don't see how comparing Avengers with a tripe film like Mall Cop 2 helps whatever point you're trying to make. |
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May 8, 2015 16:12:12 GMT
Post by Ruinus on May 8, 2015 16:12:12 GMT
Mall Cop 2 is just terrible. I went in thinking it would be laughably bad, but it wasn't. It was just bad. I don't see how comparing Avengers with a tripe film like Mall Cop 2 helps whatever point you're trying to make. There was no point, except that I thought comparing Clerks to Star Wars was odd, since the similarities only function in vague ways. But when I was talking about Paul Blart and the Avengers I was joking that one of them is comic book superheroes while the other is everyday people. But honestly, I enjoyed the second Paul Blart movie - I admit all the jokes fell flat, and I admit it doesn't have the charm of the first movie. And there are lots of problems with the humor it does employ - fatshaming humor, career shaming humor, non-jokes and such. But I think, to me, Kevin James sells it, because I think he can make some actions funny despite the fact that the script wasn't funny. Admittedly, my expectations when I went into to see that movie were way low, so anything was a pleasant surprise. |
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May 8, 2015 17:26:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 17:26:58 GMT
Mall Cop 2 is just terrible. I went in thinking it would be laughably bad, but it wasn't. It was just bad. I don't see how comparing Avengers with a tripe film like Mall Cop 2 helps whatever point you're trying to make. There was no point, except that I thought comparing Clerks to Star Wars was odd, since the similarities only function in vague ways. But when I was talking about Paul Blart and the Avengers I was joking that one of them is comic book superheroes while the other is everyday people. But honestly, I enjoyed the second Paul Blart movie - I admit all the jokes fell flat, and I admit it doesn't have the charm of the first movie. And there are lots of problems with the humor it does employ - fatshaming humor, career shaming humor, non-jokes and such. But I think, to me, Kevin James sells it, because I think he can make some actions funny despite the fact that the script wasn't funny. Admittedly, my expectations when I went into to see that movie were way low, so anything was a pleasant surprise. Same here. I really don't know what I was expecting. There were literally only a couple of jokes that I actually laughed at. That's not a good sign. I thought you were being serious about comparing Avengers and Paul Blart. I was slightly worried. |
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