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Apr 6, 2015 22:37:18 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 22:37:18 GMT
My cousin was a bit of a Trekkie as a child as he watched it with our Grandma all the time. As such, he hated Into Darkness. I guess Khan was a fantastic villain in the tv show and relegated to a plot device for the movie. There was apparently a tonne of rage from fans of Trek who hated the fact that Benedict Cumberbatch was set to play Khan, who was always supposed to be Indian in the original universe. However, in the comics, it was revealed that Khan just got plastic surgery. I understand how some people were confused since some people don't get that Spock Prime didn't just alter time, but created a whole other universe where things can be completely different, very similar to how DC always reboot their main universes. Benedict Cumberbatch was still perfect for the role and made a very convincing villain who was neither too over the top nor too passive. I quite like how they made him out to be somewhat sympathetic at first, but then the fact that he and his crew are all genocidal maniacs came out. It was a good way to subvert the 'Draco in Leather Pants' trope. Though I'm almost certain that some people still think Khan is sympathetic and that they would be able to 'change' him. It's no different to characters like Loki. It doesn't matter how cruel or bastard like the character is. As long as they've got good looks, it apparently makes no difference.
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May 1, 2015 19:34:13 GMT
Post by AvP on May 1, 2015 19:34:13 GMT
Age of Ultron was okay. It fell way short of my expectations to be completely honest. This was very much a placeholder MCU film, with a placeholder plot and a placeholder villain. Nothing incredibly major happened to further the overarcing storyline they got going on. Also, Hawkeye was the highlight of the movie. That says a lot. I kid. But yeah, he was good in this. They actually took how rubbish he was in the first movie, ran with it and sorta made it a thing. It was cool. I liked it. It was an enjoyable experience, but I was hoping for so much more. It didn't have a patch on the first Avengers. It didn't have a patch on GotG. While I'm at it, it didn't really have a patch on X-Men: DoFP. I mean, I'm not saying it was a bad movie. It's not. It's good. I'd give it maybe a 6 or 7 out of 10. It's just not great, and it really should've been. Oh, and just gonna point out that the credits stinger was absolutely rubbish. SURPRISE, GUYS, THANOS IS STILL LOOKING FOR THE INFINITY GEMS ONLY THIS TIME HE'S SUPER DUPER ULTRA MEGA FOR REALZ!!!! Yawn. I was hoping for Spider-Man. Or a Guardians cameo, or something cool. But yeah. It was a good movie, but it wasn't up to par and it wasn't satisfying for me. I had a good time, I laughed some, I was intrigued, but ultimately when I left the theater my first thought was "that could've been so much better". Which just kinda turns everything bitter.
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May 2, 2015 2:17:12 GMT
Post by bigballerju on May 2, 2015 2:17:12 GMT
Yeah Avengers AOU was okay. A 7 out of 10 for sure. Captain Winter Soldier was way better and is still the second best Marvel film for me under the first Avengers film. Damn Marvel needs to learn from some of there mistakes here. Hawkeye was great and we got to finally see why he is a great character. As far as Ultron is concerned in how he was used. Very disappointing. Still a okay and fun film. I loved the Hawkeye focused parts of the film and final battle.
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May 2, 2015 5:10:59 GMT
Post by silversurfer092 on May 2, 2015 5:10:59 GMT
I'm expecting a popcorn flick and I don't think I'll be disappointed in that. However, Ultron can be used for some super cool shit.
Either way, Guardians of the Galaxy is the best Marvel movie they will ever make.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 7:36:42 GMT
I really, really liked Age of Ultron. I think it lived up to the hype. While the plot wasn't anything to write home about, it was still an amazing action flick. It continued the trend of MCU films being as funny as hell, as there were just so many hilarious moments, yet they never felt out of place. It's an understatement to say that the MCU is not the same as it was when it started. There are the obvious moments like when Iron Man relentlessly pounds the Hulk's face in the ground and the more subtle moments like the picture of a lorry trailer flying through the air.
Ultron was a great villain, though he is little more than a generic doomsday villain who just hates Stark and wants to blow up humanity. However, his surprisingly humanlike and emotional personality can make you forget that. Vision was a great addition to the team, and I like how he doesn't look very different from his comic version at all, keeping the gaudy colours. Scarlet Witch was kind of... Meh. Even though she had more screen time than Vision, she turned out to be not as likeable or cool as you would expect. What exactly made her think she could trust a giant sarcastic artificial intelligence in the first place?
As for Falcon and War Machine, why the hell didn't they do anything productive in the entire movie? Falcon I don't think really did anything, and War Machine just got overshadowed by Vision in the final battle and wasn't seen again until the final scene of the movie. It was kind of funny that they turned War Machine into the 'Luigi' of the MCU as he lives in the other heroes' shadows, at least. Would it really have been so hard to put War Machine and Falcon in the middle of the battle against the onslaught of Ultron clones with the other heroes instead of just flying around outside?
All in all, great film. Some character flaws, but when you have a film with such a big cast, that is pretty much unavoidable. The action and the comedy were top notch.
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May 2, 2015 14:07:36 GMT
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Post by bigballerju on May 2, 2015 14:07:36 GMT
I want a fucking Hawkeye film. The dude had the best parts in the whole film and was the best acting wise.
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May 2, 2015 15:41:43 GMT
Post by AvP on May 2, 2015 15:41:43 GMT
It probably won't happen, but I think a Marvel Netflix series like the one they just gave Daredevil featuring Barton would work really well. It'd be an excellent way to shine more light on the character if they don't want to invest in a full theatrical release. He also wouldn't be nearly as out-of-place as, say, Iron Man or Thor in a work geared more towards a mature demographic.
Maybe they could even tie it into Daredevil/Iron Fist/Defenders etc by adapting his time as Ronin with the Secret Avengers? Deep-cover assignment in Japan, anyone? That way he could mix with Stick, the Hand, heck, maybe even Elektra, Bullseye or Murdoch himself after Daredevil season 2 hits.
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Post by silversurfer092 on May 4, 2015 1:15:41 GMT
No one would ever see a Hawkeye movie. That would be the biggest gamble and definite fail in cinema history.
I also really liked the movie. I went in with low expectations and enjoyed the giant fights, Ultron as a villain before the final battle, and I really liked the Maximoff twins. I also liked all the subtle hints at future storylines, like World War Hulk and Civil War. Ultron was somewhat ruined with his "jokes" which were just way out of character.
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May 4, 2015 19:24:28 GMT
Post by xLEGACYx on May 4, 2015 19:24:28 GMT
My two favorite parts of the entire movie are Iron Man and Hulk's fight and when Cap went to try and lift Thor's Hammer and Thor looked worried for a second.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 20:12:40 GMT
My two favorite parts of the entire movie are Iron Man and Hulk's fight and when Cap went to try and lift Thor's Hammer and Thor looked worried for a second. GOTOSLEEPGOTOSLEEPGOTOSLEEPGOTOSLEEPGOTOSLEEP - Tony Stark. Also when Vision just casually picked up Mjolnir. And... Almost everything that happened in the film. It was all great.
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May 4, 2015 20:23:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 4, 2015 20:23:41 GMT
No one would ever see a Hawkeye movie. That would be the biggest gamble and definite fail in cinema history. I also really liked the movie. I went in with low expectations and enjoyed the giant fights, Ultron as a villain before the final battle, and I really liked the Maximoff twins. I also liked all the subtle hints at future storylines, like World War Hulk and Civil War. Ultron was somewhat ruined with his "jokes" which were just way out of character. A Hawkeye movie would indeed be a gamble. Making whole films based on relatively minor characters without superpowers has always lead to failures. Does anyone actually remember/care about the Elektra movie? Exactly my point. However, Hawkeye definitely became more of a character in Avengers 2 instead of just a plot device/last minute hero in the first Avengers film. I still think at least some people would go and watch it if it did exist, and Marvel haven't failed us yet. As for Ultron's personality, I think it really worked well. He served as a breath of fresh air amongst all of the other super serious villains in the Marvel films, and the creators had the rights to take liberties with his character. We've had Red Skull, Abomination, Arnim Zola, Malekith, Ronan, and more. All were good villains, but they all had the same, basic 'angry, humourless psycho' personality. Loki is, of course, the most popular villain due to his likeable personality, but bringing him back for a fourth film would just be monotonous.
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May 4, 2015 21:47:15 GMT
Post by DamagingRob on May 4, 2015 21:47:15 GMT
Oh ye of little faith, Surfer. Who even knew who the Guardians of the Galaxy were, before the movie? I only knew the raccoon, because of Marvel vs. Capcom 3. And they're making an Ant Man movie. Ant. Man. You can't tell me the vast majority of movie goers aren't just going to assume that is going to be the dumbest movie ever made, and pick something else to go see.
Marvel likes to roll the dice. And Marvel does what Marvel f*cking wants. If they want to make a Hawkeye movie, I'm almost sure they will. With the recent success of the Green Arrow show, I could see it doing relatively well at worst.
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May 5, 2015 17:41:03 GMT
Post by AvP on May 5, 2015 17:41:03 GMT
Rob's right. Marvel could remake Howard the Duck at this point and people are gonna flock to see it because of the red-and-white brand logo next to its title. Amazing Spider-Man, X-Men and especially the MCU stuff have all been so successful in recent years that Marvel can basically get away with making a movie about whatever they want. Sorta like Pixar. Absolutely nobody wanted Cars 2, but it was a smash hit financially because Pixar movie.
And it sucked balls.
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May 5, 2015 18:11:59 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 18:11:59 GMT
Rob's right. Marvel could remake Howard the Duck at this point and people are gonna flock to see it because of the red-and-white brand logo next to its title. Amazing Spider-Man, X-Men and especially the MCU stuff have all been so successful in recent years that Marvel can basically get away with making a movie about whatever they want. Sorta like Pixar. Absolutely nobody wanted Cars 2, but it was a smash hit financially because Pixar movie. And it sucked balls. Oh yeah, Cars 2 was really bad... Like REALLY bad. IT WAS SO F*CKING HORRIBLE WHY WOULD THEY DO THI- Ahem... Yeah, about the Marvel films, they could indeed make a film about any of their franchises and it would both be a smash-hit and be a good film.
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May 5, 2015 19:31:38 GMT
Post by Nova Prime X on May 5, 2015 19:31:38 GMT
A Hawkeye movie would indeed be a gamble. Making whole films based on relatively minor characters without superpowers has always lead to failures. Does anyone actually remember/care about the Elektra movie? Exactly my point. Ahem... Yeah, about the Marvel films, they could indeed make a film about any of their franchises and it would both be a smash-hit and be a good film. Well that was quick. But yeah, I think they could do it right now with their star power being what it is at the moment.
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