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Post by deo on Dec 30, 2014 19:38:26 GMT
So its an island but still apart of the US? It's own state, or part of Michigan?
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Post by omfg on Dec 30, 2014 20:09:35 GMT
deoPart of the USA, although some extremists want it to separate. It's a state.
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Post by kevindwolf93 on Dec 30, 2014 22:16:08 GMT
Honestly that sounds like a spectacle of events that ruins the mystery bit, a private island has at least some chance of keeping info out to the mass media(aka non government, top secret stuff) in 20th century imo. I dont know what having an island within US borders accomplishes in story since Im leaving the 50s-90s blank for now. Unless we're not worrying about when super hero stuff gets known once we hit the 1900s (in which case I am out of the loop there) I figure extremists adds in factors to something we haven't fully developed yet . Not a bad idea, but its weird to have that concrete before anything else.
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Post by deo on Dec 31, 2014 3:17:40 GMT
Yeah, so, if we're moving it into the US, why does it have to be an island? It had to be an island before to explain how it came into being, but if we're moving it to America, why not just make it an American City?
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Post by Nihlium on Dec 31, 2014 5:05:26 GMT
I prefer it to be a U.S territory or a special district like D.C because it gives it a bit of independence. Hankering it down to the U.S.A brings too much rules and laws. I liked the island idea only because it makes placing somewhere easier than carving out a piece of a state.
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Post by Bergy on Dec 31, 2014 5:38:29 GMT
I think Reach City being part of the U.S. makes sense. A good portion of its inhabitants will likely be descendants of the original metahumans, who from my understanding are largely WW2 soldiers who were experimented on. I would make the assumption that most people who partake in INC are more familiar with the U.S than anywhere else. I'm not afraid of dealing with writing characters with the rules and laws of the modern world in place. It lends a certain level of reality, and honestly grounding this whole thing at the start is a good idea. We'll have room to get wild, but if metahumans are only just coming into the public eye it doesn't make sense for them to be totally apart from the rest of the world. I do think it should be on the eastern half of the U.S. as well, as mid-west/east coast cities make the most sense for this. They encompass rich and poor neighborhoods, a huge diversity of races and cultures, and have ample room for a seedy underground.
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Post by deo on Dec 31, 2014 16:52:24 GMT
I do think it should be on the eastern half of the U.S. as well, as mid-west/east coast cities make the most sense for this. They encompass rich and poor neighborhoods, a huge diversity of races and cultures, and have ample room for a seedy underground. You really need to spend some time in LA. Or Denver. Or San Francisco/Oakland. Or Vegas. Or any major city in the west that also has all those things.
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Post by Bergy on Dec 31, 2014 17:10:41 GMT
You really need to spend some time in LA. Or Denver. Or San Francisco/Oakland. Or Vegas. Or any major city in the west that also has all those things. I will not travel outside of my comfort bubble. My comfort bubble is television. And fine, I just want a big diverse city. I think the rest of what I said still stands as reasonable.
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Post by Nihlium on Dec 31, 2014 19:44:43 GMT
How about we make Reach a collection of Islands with the main part connected to the main land kind of like New York *cough*the best city in the world*cough*. That way Reach District (Which is what I'm calling it for now) can be split up into sectors or boroughs or whatever we'll decide to call them. Reach City itself would be the capital city and on the mainland of the U.S.A. The only reason I'd prefer it to be on the Upper East Coast or Upper West Coast is so there can be more variations in weather. But yeah, I think having Reach be a State/District akin to New York State (not size wise) would not only meet everyone halfway but also make for an interesting location for story/character creation.
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Post by Darkender on Jan 1, 2015 1:36:47 GMT
I like the idea of cluster islands. I Think creating it inland, and within America, makes more obstacles than anything. It's hard to explain, and which state is giving up this land? I think it needs to be isolated from the rest of the world. If we wanted to right something more relative we could always simply set a character in a regular city.
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Post by kevindwolf93 on Jan 1, 2015 4:48:48 GMT
Darkender, welcome to the party! Be sure to invite Pseudo if you see him. So we got a first vote to keep private island. Otherwise somewhere on US soil is beating that and US owned island has been brought up but noone's exactly in voting phase yet. I still wanna see who convinces who of what, but if it was kept inland I'd prefer a coastal area. Personally that's how I see that working, homaging immigration at the turn of the century ala Angel island, New York, and other immigration type stations.
Still, I do vye the plus sides to an independent area but hopefully this argument goes well into the new year. BTW happy new year INCers...that what we should call ourselves?
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Post by pseudo on Jan 1, 2015 5:42:42 GMT
I'm here and reading along. Honestly, I don't think it really matters where Reach City is. Any answer will only cut things off. If I write a volcano cult that sacrifices a virgin a year, are you going to tell me Reach City isn't on the right kind of fault line for Volcanic activity?
No, it's nonsense. Reach City is on earth, yes, but it's primarily in our shared imagination and in the text. We don't need all this world building detail. That's just keeping us from writing.
I get my laptop back in 7 - 10 business days, so look out for that.
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Post by Nihlium on Jan 1, 2015 7:57:01 GMT
I stand by my idea of "Reach District" being partly on the coast mainland and partly a cluster of islands maybe two or three. It kills all the birds with one stone. All we have to do is add some land on Jersey's coast and then put the islands near that coast. We'd connect the islands to the "District of Reach" via bridges and tunnels which we'd name after some important person in Reach lore.
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Post by omfg on Jan 1, 2015 20:36:25 GMT
I stand by my idea of "Reach District" being partly on the coast mainland and partly a cluster of islands maybe two or three. It kills all the birds with one stone. All we have to do is add some land on Jersey's coast and then put the islands near that coast. We'd connect the islands to the "District of Reach" via bridges and tunnels which we'd name after some important person in Reach lore. So to my understanding, something like this? (Forgive my cities, I have the Fantasy City pack installed, no modern buildings.) (I saw this in a dream. A fucking dream. Crazy right? It's ok if you tell me it sucks, I think it does, I just thought to share it.) On the mainland there is the Recruit Station, where all the young unwanted Supers go and try to sign up in order to be accepted into Reach. This zone is the communication center between the US Mainland, and the Reach Islands. Northern Island would be tundra like, powered by a weather manipulating Super, this Island caters to those that need specifically low temperature, like Ice Golems, and people with Ice/Frost related powers. Eastern Island would be mountainous, produce by a terrain altering Super, this Island was built in order to habit those that need certain height in order to breathe in a higher atmosphere. Golems, Minotaurs, Harpies, the likes. Western Island is the main source of non-super powered income, Reach's fishing port. Due to it's strategic location, fish are caught by the bountiful and shipped across the world. This Island was made when the 57th President of the United States was pressured into passing the "Non Super Laborer Law", a law thought up by fierce Liberals, who believed Reach was enforcing its citizens into slavery. The law states that Reach should provide a source of income NOT provided by any Power related activity. Lower Left Island is just a regular island. Nothing special. Lower Right Island was created for those that need excess temperature to survive. Such as fire people, and sand people. The Main Island, the Island in the middle, is where all of the higher powers live.
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Post by Nihlium on Jan 1, 2015 23:00:02 GMT
Yes something like that (Kind of better). I imagined the islands to be more of an archipelago and closer to the mainland but this works too. The weather based islands could add a new dynamic allowing Reach District to produce varying types of food and draw a lot of tourist from beach lovers to snowboarders. I would place the islands a little closer to the mainland but I think a tunnel or ferry system would work just fine.
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