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Oh yeah, I quite agree that it was a Great Movie, and that there was Some sod needed. I can't wait to see more from this genra in the west, in perhaps sequels to PR or something like that.

Yeah, While the plasma weaponry shown was awesome (And as said a means of countering their blood) we currently have the means to produce high powered lasers that if scaled correctly and mounted on a wall such as that, could easily cut a Kaiju in half at 5miles regardless of submergence... they'd just need to get better targeting... and if the Kaiju got through to it's power plant it would be useless... because they'd need dedicated full scale power plants.

As for the earlier Jaegers getting wrecked, well, at first the Kaiju were smaller, Cat1 and such. Only in the movie did they start seeing Cat4's (I think... iirc the first fight in Alaska we see was one of the first Cat4's) which were the ones that were actually starting to wreck Jaegers left and right.

Considering modifications for underwater attacks though... If they were adapted for the suicide mission, couldn't they have been adapted earlier? And for the fact that Kaiju are more effective underwater... well, if they were only dealing with one Kaiju at a time, as seen until the Double Event and subsequent Triple at the Climax of the movie. It would be a Single Kaiju vs several to a Dozen Jaegers at a time. If you combine that with Large Melee weapons for the Jaegers, and Defensive installations around the rift to supplement them, and you have a defensive line that probably wouldn't be breached until the Cat4's and Double/Triple inclusions started to happen. Another benefit to such a defense would be to keep the fighting Away from Civilians. If the Kaiju never make it further then a few miles from the rift without being attacked and destroyed, they'd never make landfall...

Of course, you'd have to build in safeguards in the event that a Kaiju manages to slip by the defenders and defenses. They'd need to develop a fast response platform to cart a single or small team of Jaegers as a rear guard.

Onto the point of Melee weapons... The Roll of Nickles was at least a start... but think about it from a Human sized stand point... essentially the human sized equivalent to these Jaeger vs Kauji fights would be pitting Knights in platemail against things like Cougars, Lions and eventually Bears... almost bear handed... A roll of Nickles here, a rocket punch there... We saw how much more effective Gypsy Danger was when it used it's sword. I can't speak for all the Jaegers, but it seemed as though they only thought equipping such effective and simple weapons onto Jaegers was a last minute idea in a 15 year war...

Mhm.

Mhm.

Actually, Knifehead was a Cat. 3. A Cat. 4 Kaiju appeared before that and required three Jaegers to take it down. I should mention one was lost in that conflict. The appearances of the Categories aren't numerically sequential but I suppose Knifehead was basically the limit for a Cat. 3 since he was the largest recorded and Gipsy killed it solo. Also to give some credence - Onibaba (The Giant Crab Kaiju that Stacker kills) was a Cat. 2 and Coyote Tango had the assistance of the Japanese Military at the time. Yamarashi is another Cat. 3 Kaiju that had two Jaegers tag team it. So I think a Cat. 2 necessitating military assistance for a lone Jaeger speaks something of their abilities and those were the hounds, the dogs sent in to sniff out our capabilities. >.> Reason I'm saying all this... I personally think their performance would be magnified underwater so keeping Jaegers there, a defensive installation, whatever, might be a bad idea.

Actually take into consideration the attacks started to occur more frequently the more the humans responded to it. The hivemind aspect - they literally had what? Dozens of Kaijus on standby, in holding cells/braces? Your plan would likely escalate their emergences... :/ Plus the fact they had 30 Jaegers at the height of their performance well into the conflict. They started losing them around Cat. 3s (Gipsy Danger and Knifehead in 2020) and more around 4s I believe (There's an instance of 2 Jaegers being thrashed by a single Kaiju, Cat.4 Mutavore in the Novelization. Not the same canon though - Mutavore gets taken on solo by Eureka and murdered but the point's made I think.). It essentially took them seven years to build up to 30 Jaegers, a feat I don't think is realistically possible to pull off in a short time for your ideas. They're only capable of building Jaegers within 3 months from my understanding and the second attack in was 6 months, the next 4, and we know the duration got shorter in between. Your idea's idealistically great but I think it might elicit a much more aggressive/numerous response from the precursors. Perhaps instead of 4s, they send in a group of 5s that mop up Mark 3s and 4s.

And they never were meant to go underwater I believe - their job was to respond to Kaijus and the time it took to get them out makes the underwater modifications unnecessary I'd think. What you're proposing is essentially Jaegers active and more on standby - like soldiers on guard around a defensive installation, which is far more plausible I suppose but not within the context of the movie.

Of course - the wall with batteries to impede their movement and the slew of battleship/destroyers supported with air carriers footing aircraft mounted with splasers

Well I could refer to Crimson Typhoon (though it didn't seem particularly effective against Otachi >.>). Oh and Striker Eureka had the blades in its arms from the beginning I believe. I think the pilots just like being such dirty sons of bitches beating Kaiju face with their bare hands.

And yes, credit that one to Mako Takes a genius to do the obvious I guess >.> I tried to find other Jaegers with melee weaponry (I'd think they'd apply the concept since they had ranged Jaegers) but the information for the others are sparse other than the ones seen in the film, the first Jaeger, etc.

Apart from the genius plan of escaping a falling spaceship by running in the same direction it's falling.

That couldn't be more wrong.

Okay the movie. Certain scenes of it.

Two "scientists" who decide to go exploring in space for their creators based on the irrefutable evidence of...cave drawings.

The idea of 2 crew members getting lost when they have holographic maps, radio communication, mapping ball devices and GPS.

An inconsistent biologist who is wary of a 2000 year old dead Engineer body but is super trusting of a random alien snake.

One scientist who fulfills his life long dream of finding aliens...and mopes around drinking like a failure after a few hours of surveying. Who also doesn't notice an android clearly put something in his drink.

If the movie can only go on because of the stupidity of most of your characters...there is something wrong here. THESE PEOPLE ARE SCIENTISTS!



These are flaws in character thinking that are required to continue the movie. If Coulson shot Loki immediately...well it didn't do all that much when he was dying...apart from blasting Loki through a wall, so I don't know how much it would have mattered. And that's assuming Coulson hits Loki instead of an illusion.

When you watch it with the deleted scenes, Prometheus becomes a much more cohesive and enjoyable film.

Well first of all, as far as your cave drawings flaw goes... Alfred Wegner devoted his life to proving the continental drift theory based on the irrefutable evidence that he believed the Earth's land masses fit together like a jigsaw when properly arranged. These are scientists, they'll do anything in the pursuit of knowledge, regardless of how scarce their evidence may be.

The Engineer was massive and dangerous-looking, the snake appeared harmless, maybe the biologist was bipolar or something. Perfectly reasonable.

The camera wasn't on the guy when the android slipped something in his drink, we don't know what he was doing. That's not a flaw.

Yes they're scientists. Scared scientists in a hostile environment, prone to making irrational decisions. As with all sci-fi movies, some suspension of disbelief is required. If you go in analyzing every single damn scene in the movie like some kind of critic, searching for mistakes, no shit you're not gonna enjoy it.

Whether Coulson would have hit him or not isn't the point, the point is it was a flaw in character thinking required for the movie to proceed. Does that make Avengers a bad movie? No. Neither do the above mentioned make Prometheus a bad movie.

@skir: List some then, but again, nobody should let minor flaws ruin a movie for them.

@supez: I saw it in the cinema like a year and a half ago and found it pretty enjoyable and coherent, myself. I'll have to check out the blu-ray if it really does make it better.

@skir2: Obviously that wasn't their intent. It was a long-ass movie as it was, they had to cut stuff out because of time constraints.

Except they had no way of knowing if it was actually dead. Yeah, no head is an indicator, but these things were the supposed gods that created humanity and their physiology is totally different. Who's to say they can't survive headless? It pays to be careful, especially when you're a spineless scientist guy.

Like I just said, the camera was on the drink, not on the guy. He could've glanced away, checked his watch, any number of things. There's not enough evidence to definitively say that particular instance was a flaw.

Yeah, it's easy to say that when the entire thing is fictional and you're sitting at a computer screen, but if you were actually in that situation I'm betting it'd be more complicated than that. Fear begets retardedness.

No, that's one particular way it could have gone. I could just as easily say "instead of running directly away from the falling spaceship, the chick runs left, only to be crushed to death by the collapsing rubble anyway". Regardless, the point is what matters. Not the example you nitpicking douchebag.

But my birthday isn't for another four months.