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Post by xLEGACYx on Jan 8, 2014 14:09:51 GMT
Beast
Jean Paul Valley
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Venom
Red Hood
The arena is an urban intersection and 4, 3 story buildings. Cars are scattered about the road.
All combatants have their standard gear
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Post by leroypowell3 on Jan 9, 2014 2:43:13 GMT
Team 2 is the more powerful team.
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Post by xLEGACYx on Jan 9, 2014 3:22:16 GMT
With Jean-Paul's enhanced abilities and skills, coupled with his Flaming Sword; he could pose a threat to Venom. With the symbiotes weakness to fire he could cause some damage. Also add Beats' knowledge of Venom and it gives them a greater chance. Beast has the superior skills to take out Red Hood once the knowledge Jean Paul has on him is added.
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Post by kainboa on Jan 9, 2014 14:48:30 GMT
While Venom does have a weakness towards fire, it is nowhere close to the point where it will make any difference in this fight.
Especially considering that Venom, as standard equipment, has his Multigun, giving him a ranged advantage, and allowing him to stay out of the debilitating range of the fire sword.
The only chance, team one has of defeating their opponents, is that flaming sword, and it's just not enough
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Post by bigballerju on Jan 9, 2014 16:51:16 GMT
Red Hood is skilled enough to the point I could still see him put a bullet in Beast's head sooner or later. Beast is only superior physically and his scientific knowledge won't help him here. Red Hood has fought superior opponents before and his All Caste training makes him one of the best fighters on the planet. Venom has fought Hellstrom and other demons so a flame sword isn't gone cut it here. Venom takes out Jean definitely. Red Hood can take out Beast. Team 2 wins. This is a scan here of him slamming someone much bigger then him with no problem.  |
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Post by xLEGACYx on Jan 10, 2014 4:29:25 GMT
In all fairness though, Beast is a much more capable fighter than "Suze". He is strong, faster, and more agile. Also while Beast may not be a master strategist, I have to say he is almost on par with Hood and Venom. Jean Paul is essentially a more brutal Batman. He is just as skilled but much more ruthless. Really Jean Paul's only skill he is lacking compared to Batman is his detective skills.
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Post by bigballerju on Jan 10, 2014 6:27:46 GMT
Beast is not on par with either Venom or Hood in the combat strategist department nor does he have fighting skills on the level of either of them. Red Hood has training from Batman and the All Caste in everything. Venom is Flash with all his training and skills Beast doesn't have have as well. That scan was to show you Hood's strength.
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Post by xLEGACYx on Jan 10, 2014 19:33:28 GMT
that scan doesnt show strength. He took a physically bigger opponent that was charging at him and used his opponents momentum against him to throw him.
Same reason Batman can throw Superman in the mini movie with Joker and Lex
Its Judo- Use your opponents momentum and strength against them.
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Post by bigballerju on Jan 10, 2014 21:49:56 GMT
In the scan before that Suse wasn't moving that fast or a lot when attacking so it still shows strength as well to grab someone of that size. Your right it shows skill from Judo. I was trying to find the scan before the ones I posted here to show you but couldn't pull one up.
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Post by xLEGACYx on Jan 11, 2014 3:59:49 GMT
In the scan before that Suse wasn't moving that fast or a lot when attacking so it still shows strength as well to grab someone of that size. Your right it shows skill from Judo. I was trying to find the scan before the ones I posted here to show you but couldn't pull one up. i see where you are getting at but with a person that size Hood uses his body as a fulcrum and uses Suze weight against him/her. The difference is current McCoy agility wise is on par with the best and his strength he could lift Suze over his head and throw with ease. Especially current beast. I think with beasts extensive experience, skills, and intellect, not to mention his vastly superior physical attributes he is more than a match for Hood. McCoy has dealt with enemies who have guns before on many occasions. Hood would be tough but winnable against. |
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Post by bigballerju on Jan 11, 2014 5:34:44 GMT
Beast has never beaten anyone has highly skilled and trained as Red Hood.
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Post by xLEGACYx on Jan 11, 2014 13:23:11 GMT
Beast has never beaten anyone has highly skilled and trained as Red Hood. he has tangled with wolverine, Spider-Man, and others that are on par. Hood is by far the least skilled of the bat family. He is just more ruthless than the others |
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Post by bigballerju on Jan 11, 2014 17:09:04 GMT
Beast has never beaten anyone has highly skilled and trained as Red Hood. he has tangled with wolverine, Spider-Man, and others that are on par. Hood is by far the least skilled of the bat family. He is just more ruthless than the othersbody That's actually wrong. Beast has never fought Spiderman or Wolverine in a straight out fight. Beast has never defeated anybody as skilled as Red Hood. Red Hood is not the least skilled of the Batman Family. Seriously before and after Flashpoint he was one of the best. Red Hood was skilled enough to fight Batman, almost beat Nightwing, almost kill Damien twice, beat Tim Drake, and more before Flashpoint. As a matter of fact before new 52 it has taken Nightwing, Red Robin, and Damien together to fight Red Hood more then once. Before Flashpoint he was also trained by Batman and Ra's Al Ghul. In the new 52 Red Hood was trained by Batman, Lady Shiva, and the All Caste. Seriously that makes him one of the best fighters on the planet. That's probably the reason why we saw he apparently got the best of Batman and needed Nightwing to interfere in Outlaws when they showed us part of his past. Red Hood in the new 52 outright battled the League of Assassins (Fought Bronze Tiger to a standstill) and more. Beast doesn't have any advantages really other then physically and even that isn't enough to give him a win over Red Hood. |
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Post by xLEGACYx on Jan 11, 2014 18:28:45 GMT
I didn't realized he had changed that much in the new 52.
What exactly is the all caste?
I only get Batman, Superman Unchained, and Justice League from DC
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Post by bigballerju on Jan 11, 2014 19:08:01 GMT
Their a ancient group of warrior monks who have been around for thousands of years with fighting skills on the level of the League of Assassins from what I know and some members with special supernatural type of abilities. The All Caste and the League of Assassins actually formed a alliance. Both together agree to train Jason Todd so he could one day lead the League of Assassins. Somewhere in between Lady Shiva now apparently trained him as well.
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