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Post by leroypowell3 on Nov 3, 2015 1:10:29 GMT
Future Force series
They had come back to prevent a dark future. There was a major mission which required all of them for that was later. There were smaller
missions; surgical strikes that would help direct the timeline in a more positive direction even if they failed in the big mission.
Ransik had started out on the opposite side but when things got so bad that he couldn’t take it, he joined the mission to go back and change
things. All for the best. Some of his comrades were soft. They wouldn’t have the stones to do what needed to be done when the time came.
He would.
It was basically a series of hits. Kill certain people and their untimely demise would cancel certain events. Those canceled events would, at
least, lead to something not as bad.
Ransik volunteered to tackle the monster aspect. From what they could deduce, Mesogog- an enemy of the Power Rangers- had started
something that lead to an overtaking of mutated monsters.
Right now, they didn’t know where Mesogog was but some of the science that he used to create the crisis came out of Oscorp. It was genetic
based company that made a lot of money making bio weapons for the United States. With his future education, Ransik was able to get into
the computer systems and find what he was looking for.
Dr. Curt Connors was the lead researcher on the infamous project. Perhaps this would be an easy hit. Just a normal scientist. Probably be too
scared to even run.
Dr. Connors wasn’t at work today but Ransik found a home address. He went their, strange clothes weapons and all. He wasn’t the subtle
type.
Even so, a bit of scouting wouldn’t hurt. Simply bursting through the door smashing around would scare his quarry off if he didn’t find him
right away. Then there’d be a chase. And maybe he’d have to deal with the police and perhaps even some of this time period’s super heroes.
It wouldn’t bother him to go that route, but accomplishing his mission was too important for needless side skirmishes.
Luckily, Dr. Connors was home. Alone too, apparently. If Ransik could enter and make the kill quickly, he could move on to the next target
and maybe get two things accomplished in one day. Show the others how it’s done.
The doctor seemed to be in distress as Ransik approached him. He was convulsing and holding himself as if trying to keep something inside of
him from bursting out.
It got worse and Ransik held back to observe what was happening. Dr. Connors started to change, physically. His face grew a snout, his spine
elongated into a tail. His very size doubled and his skin tone turned green. He looked like a giant humanoid lizard.
Entranced by the morph, Ransik left himself open to detection and the Lizard turned around and snarled at him.
The threat pulled him back and he got ready to slay the thing that Connors had become.
Fight Parameters:
Fight to the death.
electricferret.freeforums.net/thread/4435/ransik
electricferret.freeforums.net/thread/1270/lizard
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Post by bigballerju on Nov 3, 2015 2:42:25 GMT
Damn good match. This will be a long fight but in the end Ransik's energy projection and telekinesis gives him the win. Lizard has no counter for those two abilities. Though Lizard has the speed and power along with the intellect to win as well. I think Ransik's abilities just gives him a higher chance of winning. Ransik has other abilities too I believe.
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Post by SSJRuss on Nov 3, 2015 5:36:39 GMT
I'm with baller on this one. I love the Lizard but I don't think he's going to win this match. Not that he can't win but Ransik just has the better odds.
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Post by kainboa on Nov 3, 2015 10:08:10 GMT
As far as I know Lizard hasn't lost the psionic power he gained during the Shed storyline. Which Ransik doesn't have any counter for.
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Post by bigballerju on Nov 3, 2015 17:52:52 GMT
Ransik is not human. Connors has the ability to activate the lizard part in a human brain and cause them to act on there instincts. Ransik is a mutant who was created in a lab. He also ability wise has teleportation and can pull weapons from his body.
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Post by kainboa on Nov 4, 2015 14:05:24 GMT
Ransik is not human.Not true. While he is something more than a baseline human, he still remains at least partially human. This is obvious when he is purged of his mutant side, and is turned into a normal human. Connors has the ability to activate the lizard part in a human brain and cause them to act on there instincts.Yes, the most likely would be the flight part of the "fight or flight" instinct, winning the fight for him, as Ransik tries to find the deepest hole to hide in, leaving Lizard to attack him at his whim. Ransik is a mutant who was created in a lab.Yes, and part of what makes up the sum of his parts, is some human bits. If there weren't any human bits in him, then when the mutant bits were purged he would've just been gone. He also ability wise has teleportation and can pull weapons from his bodyThat's nice, to counter that Lizard is fast enough to hit Spider-man, even with his danger-sense. Making him more than fast enough to dodge most if not all of the attacks Ransik throws at him. On the off chance that he does get hit, he is durable enough to simply shrug anything other than the most powerful attacks off. And with his healing factor, those won't affect him for very long. Additionally, from what I've seen, Ransik hasn't shown anywhere near the durability necessary to withstand the level of punishment Lizard can throw out. Though if any of you who are arguing for him would care to show something, which would indicate that he doesn't get splattered across the nearest wall when Lizard strikes him, this would be a much more interesting discussion.
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Post by bigballerju on Nov 4, 2015 18:06:06 GMT
Ransik could keep distance between him and Lizard with his telekinesis while attacking him at the same time with his energy projection. Lizard has no counter or defense to his telekinesis. As soon as Lizard lands a hit or comes near him he could teleport. Ransik is not a normal human here and do you have proof Lizard would even be able to use that specific telepathy ability on Ransik when he has his mutant side? Ransik is mostly mutant before becoming a normal human. He does not have a whole regular human brain as a mutant. So do you know that part of the human brain has the lizard part? How do you know the mutant part of him won't make it impossible for Lizard to use that ability on him?
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Post by Methos on Nov 4, 2015 20:29:34 GMT
"Ransik could keep distance between him and Lizard with his telekinesis while attacking him at the same time with his energy projection."
Do you have anything to demonstrate that Ransik's telekinesis is strong enough for that?
And while you're at it, what makes you sure that Ransik's energy projection is powerful enough to actually hurt the Lizard, let alone hurt him enough to actually be a factor in the fight?
"Lizard has no counter or defense to his telekinesis."
Except for his speed, which makes it difficult for Ransik to use his TK directly against him. And his strength, which will allow Connors to either partially, or completely, overpower(and ignore) the TK effects.
"As soon as Lizard lands a hit or comes near him he could teleport."
Does Ransik have reflexes fast enough to teleport away before Lizard lands a hit? Or durability enough to not go *splat* the first time Lizard lands a solid hit on him?
"Ransik is not a normal human here and do you have proof Lizard would even be able to use that specific telepathy ability on Ransik when he has his mutant side?"
Yea, it's called basic biology and neurology.
The reptilian part of the brain(which is what Lizard is capable of manipulating with his telepathic abilities) is something that all modern vertebrates have. It's what is responsible for things like self-preservation(which Ransik has demonstrated that he has), the fight-flight instinct, primitive emotions such as anger, fear, etc.(which Ransik has been shown to have).
I could go into a longer detailed explanation here, but the very fact that you're asking that question, shows that you wouldn't understand it anyway.
"Ransik is mostly mutant before becoming a normal human."
This is true, but what does it have to do with anything?
"He does not have a whole regular human brain as a mutant."
Oh really? Since you somehow know this, I don't suppose you can explain exactly which parts of the human brain, that Ransik does not have? Or how purging the mutant part of him, somehow generates parts of his brain that he didn't have before?
I'm honestly looking forward to your explanation on that, since neurology is one of my primary interests.
"So do you know that part of the human brain has the lizard part? How do you know the mutant part of him won't make it impossible for Lizard to use that ability on him?"
Basic biology and neurology, as well as Ransik having already demonstrated possessing qualities that come specifically from those parts of the brain.
As I said before, the very fact that you're asking that question, shows that you're pretty much completely ignorant on the topic, and wouldn't understand the detailed explanation if I gave it.
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Post by leroypowell3 on Nov 5, 2015 2:33:38 GMT
The only thing I would argue with you on Methos is that Ransik beat the time force rangers so bad that they all powered down. Nobody has ever done that before or since. If he can damage them that bad then he's powerful enough to hurt The Lizard.
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Post by Methos on Nov 5, 2015 10:31:54 GMT
The only thing I would argue with you on Methos is that Ransik beat the time force rangers so bad that they all powered down. Nobody has ever done that before or since. If he can damage them that bad then he's powerful enough to hurt The Lizard. Alright, I'll bite. Can you give some examples of their durability(the rangers), to demonstrate that hurting them makes Ransik powerful enough to hurt the Lizard? I honestly can't think of any examples of durability from the Rangers, that puts them even close to that level.
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Post by bigballerju on Nov 5, 2015 18:13:44 GMT
I will see if I can find and post videos from youtube. I meant to do that yesterday. I just work during the day and I like to rest when I come home so I forget.
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Post by leroypowell3 on Nov 6, 2015 0:53:51 GMT
The only thing I would argue with you on Methos is that Ransik beat the time force rangers so bad that they all powered down. Nobody has ever done that before or since. If he can damage them that bad then he's powerful enough to hurt The Lizard. Alright, I'll bite. Can you give some examples of their durability(the rangers), to demonstrate that hurting them makes Ransik powerful enough to hurt the Lizard? I honestly can't think of any examples of durability from the Rangers, that puts them even close to that level. I would say any battle with a monster will do. Those monsters have blasted them with rays that would blow up a city block (note the special effects explosions that go off all around them). Lizard wouldn't be able to stand up to that.
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Post by bigballerju on Nov 6, 2015 1:38:33 GMT
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Post by bigballerju on Nov 6, 2015 1:38:50 GMT
That's one battle. I will look for more.
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Post by bigballerju on Nov 6, 2015 1:51:40 GMT
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