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Post by AvP on Mar 15, 2014 21:46:40 GMT
I love Lesnar because he is a monster and is great to see in action. However him and Taker had a great feud already in the past. This feud won't be on that level or close so what's the point. Hmm, I'd disagree. While they had amazing matches ten years ago, both are far more experienced ring workers at this point, and both are still physically fit enough to pull off a great match. Also the Taker Lesnar feuded with was Bikertaker, which... yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing him go up against the actual Deadman this time, not some redneck on a hog.
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Post by DSkillz on Mar 15, 2014 21:47:06 GMT
I pinned the Pro Wrestling thread back on EF, so I figured since a good discussion's going here, I might as well sticky this here, too. All that said, I'm so far out of the loop with wrestling these days I wouldn't know where to start discussion here myself.
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Post by AvP on Mar 15, 2014 22:01:43 GMT
WOO! PRO WRESTLING IS REAL!
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Post by xLEGACYx on Mar 17, 2014 3:45:16 GMT
I have always been a fan of the original/current Undertaker. I havent watched in awhile but I may have to catch up on this fued.
*It sucks that all the stars I used to watch growing up are slowly disappearing from wrestling
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Post by AvP on Mar 28, 2014 17:09:47 GMT
I'm really impressed by Seth Rollins as of late. For months I kinda saw him as just "there" alongside the awesome mic talent of Ambrose and cool big man style of Reigns, but he's really come into his own on the mic and in the ring as a highflyer.
I think he thrives as a babyface, since he really seems to know how to get the crowd fired up. Hopefully they keep him that way after the Shield split. Speaking of which, I'm hoping when they do split up they shatter entirely and all go off in different directions, rather than Reigns getting catapulted to the top himself and leaving Ambrose and Rollins stuck in tag team hell.
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Post by Nova Prime X on Mar 29, 2014 12:27:00 GMT
Yes.
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Post by supes on Mar 31, 2014 0:02:07 GMT
Concerning Batista, I think his return would have gotten a more positive response if people hadn't already been worked up into a frenzy by the 'Yes' movement.
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Post by AvP on Apr 9, 2014 15:13:54 GMT
Well... RIP to the Streak, and RIP to the Ultimate Warrior.
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Post by xLEGACYx on Apr 11, 2014 19:24:14 GMT
RIP WARRIOR
RIP STREAK... from what I heard the lead up to the match was luck laster.
On another note STING has signed with WWE they dont kniw what role he will play in the company but im sure it will be fun and entertaining. To me he has always delivered a great quality to wrestling in general
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Post by AvP on Apr 12, 2014 12:35:22 GMT
RIP STREAK... from what I heard the lead up to the match was luck laster. On another note STING has signed with WWE they dont kniw what role he will play in the company but im sure it will be fun and entertaining. To me he has always delivered a great quality to wrestling in general It was, at that. I think they made Lesnar seem really weak in the lead-up to make it that much more of a shocker when he buried it. Effective, in hindsight, but it didn't make for the most exciting buildup ever. I'm looking forward to Sting, but I'm honestly more excited about all the young stars getting the push at the moment. This pretty much sums up my feelings on the last Raw: wwe-gifs.tumblr.com/post/82132565282Daniel Bryan is finally getting a real title reign. The Shield are insanely popular faces and stronger than ever. The Wyatts are insanely popular heels and stronger than ever. Wade Barrett is back wrestling, and people love him so much they gave him insane cheers and booed Rey Mysterio in their match. Cesaro is Paul Heyman's new guy. Oh, AND PEOPLE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT WOMENS' WRESTLING AGAIN BECAUSE OF PAIGE DEBUTING FROM NXT! I legit can't remember the last time I heard "this is awesome" chants for divas. It was pretty electric. It just about makes up for Punk quitting... and then some.
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Post by xLEGACYx on Apr 12, 2014 14:32:48 GMT
Call me old fashioned but wrestling just seems lackluster since about 2008 or 2009 (possibly 2010)
but like I said before I was more of a 90's to early 2000's (Taker, DX, Goldberg, Sting, NWO, Stone Cold, Hardy Boyz, Mankind, etc.)
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Post by bigballerju on Apr 12, 2014 15:56:37 GMT
2008 and 2009 was horrible for WWE fans. Same crap over and over again. LOL today's wrestling is way better. Funny people forget how dominate Lesner was in WWE before this Wrestlemania. He beat Hulk Hogan (Destroyed him on Smackdown), Goldberg, Rock, and more in the past. When he returned he beat Triple H, almost destroyed Cena, destroyed Big Show, and more. What was WWE suppose to do to make him more dominate then what he already is? I loved Mania and I am happy the new generation is finally getting there due.
The Shield and Wyatts are WWE's most over factions since the Attitude Era. All of them or most will go on to be huge stars. I love Cena being afraid of the Wyatts and putting them more over.
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Post by AvP on Apr 12, 2014 17:12:47 GMT
Around 2006 through 2010 were pretty awful as far as WWE programming quality goes. The main problem was they were more or less still milking the class of 2000 (Triple H, Undertaker, Cena, Orton, Kane, Rey Mysterio, Batista, Michaels and a few others) as THE top stars without giving the younger guys a chance. Don't get me wrong, I respect the in-ring ability of HHH, Taker, Cena, Orton and Batista, and I LOVE Shawn Michaels, but you had really talented guys like Mr Kennedy, MVP, Christian, Cody Rhodes, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke and co. being stuck in midcard hell and not being given the opportunities they deserved while we got the same old tired fights again and again and again among the headliners.
Then Bryan appeared, Punk dropped the pipebomb and nothing was ever the same again. Now we have guys like Bryan, Cesaro, Barrett, Paige, the Shield and the Wyatts dominating the card, and it's great. Granted the WWE suffer from the old "we have so much talent we don't know what to do with it" syndrome from time to time, but on the whole (with the glaring exceptions, in my book, being Ziggler and Christian), they're using the right talent in the right places.
This is the age of technically gifted wrestlers, imo. You'd be hardpressed to find wrestlers from the Attitude or Ruthless Aggression eras with the same sheer level of in-ring expertise as the likes of Bryan, Cesaro, all three members of the Shield, Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper (Rowan is still a bit stiff), Sami Zayn, Ziggler and more.
Though some might argue the wrestlers these days don't have the same dynamic personalities possessed by those of yesteryear, I'd argue that point with guys like Bryan, (again) all three of the Shield guys, Wyatt, Zayn, Ziggler, Christian, Barrett and others. They're all great and coming up with witty lines consistently, which is probably why the crowd is so behind most of them.
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Post by xLEGACYx on Apr 12, 2014 18:08:56 GMT
Around 2006 through 2010 were pretty awful as far as WWE programming quality goes. The main problem was they were more or less still milking the class of 2000 (Triple H, Undertaker, Cena, Orton, Kane, Rey Mysterio, Batista, Michaels and a few others) as THE top stars without giving the younger guys a chance. Don't get me wrong, I respect the in-ring ability of HHH, Taker, Cena, Orton and Batista, and I LOVE Shawn Michaels, but you had really talented guys like Mr Kennedy, MVP, Christian, Cody Rhodes, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke and co. being stuck in midcard hell and not being given the opportunities they deserved while we got the same old tired fights again and again and again among the headliners. Then Bryan appeared, Punk dropped the pipebomb and nothing was ever the same again. Now we have guys like Bryan, Cesaro, Barrett, Paige, the Shield and the Wyatts dominating the card, and it's great. Granted the WWE suffer from the old "we have so much talent we don't know what to do with it" syndrome from time to time, but on the whole (with the glaring exceptions, in my book, being Ziggler and Christian), they're using the right talent in the right places. This is the age of technically gifted wrestlers, imo. You'd be hardpressed to find wrestlers from the Attitude or Ruthless Aggression eras with the same sheer level of in-ring expertise as the likes of Bryan, Cesaro, all three members of the Shield, Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper (Rowan is still a bit stiff), Sami Zayn, Ziggler and more. Though some might argue the wrestlers these days don't have the same dynamic personalities possessed by those of yesteryear, I'd argue that point with guys like Bryan, (again) all three of the Shield guys, Wyatt, Zayn, Ziggler, Christian, Barrett and others. They're all great and coming up with witty lines consistently, which is probably why the crowd is so behind most of them. While a lot of wrestlers now days are more athletic, they are all kinda generic. Everyone knows its a show. but the wrestlers today all but a couple have the same gimmick. The variety of characters is bland. The acting (as far as interviews and such) is just lacking. Not taking away from the ability of todays wrestlers, they just don't have the attraction of past characters.
**now the above is just my opinion and I can respect if yours is the opposite**
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Post by AvP on Apr 12, 2014 18:59:36 GMT
Yeah, we're in plain disagreement then. I feel CM Punk, Dean Ambrose, Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Daniel Bryan, the Miz, Ziggler, Bad News Barrett, Sami Zayn, Bo Dallas, Bray Wyatt and even someone whose first language isn't english like Cesaro are as sharp on the mic as anyone from the 90s and from a gimmick perspective the roster is actually quite diverse. Just among the ones I've listed above, you have the outspoken, defiant Straight Edge Superstar (or savior, depending on how extreme the gimmick is at the time) renowned for his shoot promos and anti-authority point-of-view, the Hounds of Justice entering through the crowd and dealing with injustices in their own unorthodox way, the angry goatface who speaks in affirmatives and negatives, the most must-see superstar in WWE history (because he's the Miz and he's awesome), the showoff who puts everything into every match he goes into no matter how important it is, the English bare-knuckle brawler with a penchant for delivering bad news, the witty generic luchadore who's actually from Canada, the living breathing Bole model for wrestling fans everywhere (read: an old-school babyface (like Cena or Hogan) parody who's so annoying he's actually a heel), the insane backwoods cultist, and the Swiss Superman. That's just a few of the best among the various rosters, mind you, there's a ton more.
It's funny, the ones boring the audience right now are actually the still-lingering stars from ten years ago and prior to that. I'll just drop some of the better promos here to show that the acting skills and gimmicks are still perfectly sound and distinct.
Ad infineum, really
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